Welcome Angel!
....looking forward to it! *smiles*
hi, im angel, an ex like many others on here i gather.
ill be on regularly so speak to you all soon.
xxx angel xxx
Welcome Angel!
....looking forward to it! *smiles*
well heres my story and i'm sticking to it :).
my grandmother became a witness when my mom was a teenager.
my mom became one when i was 4. that would be in 1954. i remember going to the international convention in ny at the yankee stadium and polo grounds.
Welcome to JWD from one Newbie (oops i'm a Junior now!) to another ;).
Hope to hear from you soon!!!
this topic was inspired by the can you sue the watchtower... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=21122&site=3.
it appears that the legal defense of the society is based on voluntary association, and based on that membership a person is by law subject to the eclessiastical tribunals (judicial committees) of jehovah's witnesses.
it immediately brings to mind the fact that many of us began association or were baptized while still minors.
I was baptized @ age 9.
i had a conversation with a friend in the "know" today.
it brings ever clearer the dysfunction of jehovah's witnesses and how they treat child molesters.
in my local congregation the individual who admitted molesting children seems to be held in high esteem.
On a recent visit (this week), my older JW sister discusses with me how our dad (rest his soul) a congregation servant (elder) was a pedophile. She was the victim of his sexual advances up until the age of eight. (he lost interest?) ...and how the elders merely "councelled" him.
What I didn't get to mention to her (I will soon)is that after my dad's death...my mom married another pedophile JW...and guess what? All the rest of my brothers and sisters had grown up.
So there I was...held hostage in our house, forcibly sitting on his lap...while my mom, my middle sister & some local police were outside our locked house trying to coax him into letting me go. After he finally gave up...the police started asking me questions like "Where did he touch you" "Did he touch you 'down there'?" I remember my mom interupting them and saying "She'll be all right, we'll take care of her." Mom? Like you took care of my sister?
Years later, I found out that my brothers had 'done things' to my middle sister. One of those brothers became a fine example in the congregation...even going on elderdom. (For those of you who read my 2nd post..it's not the brother that posts here...whom btw hasn't responded!)
Well to make a long story of pedophilia even longer...about 2 years ago my husband (baptized in 1974) reveals to me that his older JW cousin (a MS) had molested him when he was young.
OK, I may be wrong here...but, everyone involved were not only part of my family but, they were all JWs.
Is this normal?
When does it stop?
watchtower.
bible and tract society of new york, inc.. writing department phone (718) 625-3600.
25 columbia heights, brooklyn, new york 11201-2483, u.sa.
See what beards do?
i find reading this information from different individuals that being a jw and then leaving has people not wanting anything to do with god.
did god tell us to become members of a cult?
i think it is a form of programming that is given over and over that we would be like a dog returning to its vomit.
For me, God is like a carrot on a string...or maybe I should say a Snicker's Bar on a string...it's tempting, i want it...but, when I grab it and pull........
.....the string on the Snicker's bar opens up a giant door to a huge closet full of JW stuff and it all falls on top of me like an avalanche.
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ie: If there is a God...what is His name? Does He really care what us humans are doing? Does He have an earthly organization? Is Jesus God? Is there a Hell? Is it ok to have oral sex? Will smurfs get me? Will someone see me buying Lucky Charms at the grocery? etc. etc. etc...
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sometimes it's best to keep the closet door closed, unless you have the energy to have a garage sale.
see...not all former JWs are weird
today the stangest thing happened at work:.
i am working in my parent's bakery when i guy comes in with one crutch.
he obviously had trouble walking.
doughnuts r my crutch...*sigh*
mabe he traded his pastries for some magik beans
"the one whose throne is in heaven sits laughing.
" (psalms 2:4).
attending a congregation on the mexican border, we were accustomed to "snow birds" joining us during the winter months.
9 That which has come to be, that is what will come to be; and that which has been done, that is what will be done; and so there is nothing new under the sun. Ecclesiastes 1:9
Unanswered: Sorry for the repeat. But, thanks for the info...I hope I don't have to search JWD Archives before I post...that would be way too strenuous. *sigh*
i doubt i shall be hearing from my sister in a while.
she is a jw and has known i am gay and all about the smoking etc etc.
she said it did not bother her and that i am still her brother!
It's difficult for me to admit this now but...
My husband's cousin (a MS) who was the best man at our wedding was disfellowsipped a week later for homosexuality. The last time I spoke to him was at our reception...as we danced, he whispered "goodbye" and that he "loved me and wished it was him that was marrying me." I didn't understand at the time, until I heard the announcement at the hall.
Although his cousin was his best and really his only friend,(because we were JWs) my husband and I did not see him or speak to him for 17 years. It wasn't because of our disapproval of his lifestyle it was out of fear of being disapproved by the JWs if we sought him out.
After a period of not attending the Kingdom Hall...we got a call one day...outta the blue. It was him. I guess he had heard from a non-JW relative that we had stopped attending. He was down on vacation from Florida with his "life partner" and wondered if he could see us. Needless to say, both my husband and I were so excited! We spent the day with them and caught up on the 17 years we had been apart. He hadn't changed...he was the same funny, lovable guy we had known and loved...except for the fact that he was free. Free to be himself.
Brit...I hope somewhere down the line your sister has a change of heart and embraces you again. Til then...Hate the intolerance....Love the person.
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here a question to trump jws.. where was the larynx located in neanderthal man if neanderthals were as capable of speech as you and i were?.
if they say that the larynx would be located in the same place as a modern human.. say`you are saying that neanderthal man was a monster with his larynx located in his chest'.. .
cf.eve spoke,pp93-94
I am no where near an expert on Neanderthal Men....although, I have met a few.
It was interesting reading:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/speech980427.html
http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/timeresponse.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/sci_tech/highlights/010710_neanderthal.shtml